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| me and my uncle fucking each other [wiadomość #5249] |
sob, 01 marzec 2008 13:43 |
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PORNOLATION RELEASE
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| | Wątek: Wysokodochodowy program partnerski |
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| Wysokodochodowy program partnerski [wiadomość #5248] |
sob, 09 luty 2008 11:02 |
PatronX
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Program płaci do 340 złotych za każdego uczestnika seminarium, na temat
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| | Wątek: BLOG ROKU GLOSUJ NAMNIE! |
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| BLOG ROKU GLOSUJ NAMNIE! [wiadomość #5247] |
sob, 02 luty 2008 19:14 |
Austin Matthew
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Hello,
GLOSUJ NA MNIE W KONKURSIE NA BLOK ROKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WYSTARCZY WYSLAC SMS O TRESCI "I00072" na numer 71222 ZEBYM WYGRAL LAPTOPA
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thx
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Wasz Michas M. aka Super Niania at matthew_4313@yahoo.com
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| | Wątek: Telenet nieuwsgroepen mededeling: nieuwsserver adres aanpassen/Attention: modification de l'adresse |
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| Telenet nieuwsgroepen mededeling: nieuwsserver adres aanpassen/Attention: modification de l'adresse [wiadomość #5246] |
wto, 29 styczeń 2008 20:55 |
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Beste klant,
Telenet heeft een migratie gedaan van haar nieuwsservers.
Wat betekent dit concreet voor jou als gebruiker?
Er verandert niets aan de service, maar om verder gebruik te maken van de
Telenet nieuwsgroepen service moet je bij de instellingen van je nieuwslezer
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newsbin.telenet.be in newsgroups.telenet.be. Verder dien je de authenticatie
op deze nieuwsserver uit te schakelen.
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Het Telenet team
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Cher client,
Telenet a effectue une migration de ses serveurs de newsgroup.
Pour continuer a utiliser les newsgroups de Telenet, modifiez dans la
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Ceci ne necessite pas que vous vous identifiez pour acceder a ce serveur de
newsgroup.
Cordialement,
L'equipe Telenet
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| a [wiadomość #5245] |
sob, 19 styczeń 2008 20:10 |
me[1]
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Brak treści wiadomości
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| | Wątek: my sister and a dog humping |
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| my sister and a dog humping [wiadomość #5244] |
śro, 09 styczeń 2008 16:34 |
yenc
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Brak treści wiadomości
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| | Wątek: !!!!! Make Over $200 per day in Autopilot !!!!! -b#b*4jtTa |
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| !!!!! Make Over $200 per day in Autopilot !!!!! -b#b*4jtTa [wiadomość #5243] |
pią, 28 grudzień 2007 12:51 |
Get Rich Today
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| | Forum: konspiracja |
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| Wątek: me and my uncle fucking each other |
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| me and my uncle fucking each other [wiadomość #5242] |
sob, 01 marzec 2008 13:43 |
yenc
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PORNOLATION RELEASE
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| | Wątek: BLOG ROKU GLOSUJ NAMNIE! |
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| BLOG ROKU GLOSUJ NAMNIE! [wiadomość #5241] |
sob, 02 luty 2008 19:14 |
Davis David
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Hiya
GLOSUJ NA MNIE W KONKURSIE NA BLOK ROKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WYSTARCZY WYSLAC SMS O TRESCI "I00072" na numer 71222 ZEBYM WYGRAL LAPTOPA
KOSZT TO 1.22zl WIEC CHYBA KAZDEGO STAC
MOJA KATEGORIA TO
http://www.blogroku.pl/kategoria_glosuj.html?catId=27
JESTEM NA 1 MIEJSCU BO KONKURENCJA TO EHEM SLABA W POROWNANIU DO MNIE
POMORZ MI JE UTRZYMAC, A ZOBACZYSZ WIECEJ MOICH ZWARIOWANYCH
WPISOW NA TWOIM ULUBIONYM BLOGU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you very much,
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Wasz Michas M. aka Super Niania at Davis9468@juno.com
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| | Wątek: Telenet nieuwsgroepen mededeling: nieuwsserver adres aanpassen/Attention: modification de l'adresse |
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| Telenet nieuwsgroepen mededeling: nieuwsserver adres aanpassen/Attention: modification de l'adresse [wiadomość #5240] |
wto, 29 styczeń 2008 20:55 |
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Beste klant,
Telenet heeft een migratie gedaan van haar nieuwsservers.
Wat betekent dit concreet voor jou als gebruiker?
Er verandert niets aan de service, maar om verder gebruik te maken van de
Telenet nieuwsgroepen service moet je bij de instellingen van je nieuwslezer
het adres van de nieuwsserver veranderen van news.telenet.be of
newsbin.telenet.be in newsgroups.telenet.be. Verder dien je de authenticatie
op deze nieuwsserver uit te schakelen.
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Het Telenet team
------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------
Cher client,
Telenet a effectue une migration de ses serveurs de newsgroup.
Pour continuer a utiliser les newsgroups de Telenet, modifiez dans la
configuration de lecteur de nouvelles l'adresse du serveur de newsgroup:
newsgroups.telenet.be a la place de news.telenet.be ou newsbin.telenet.be.
Ceci ne necessite pas que vous vous identifiez pour acceder a ce serveur de
newsgroup.
Cordialement,
L'equipe Telenet
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| my sister and a dog humping [wiadomość #5239] |
śro, 09 styczeń 2008 16:34 |
yenc
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| | Wątek: !!!!! Make Over $200 per day in Autopilot !!!!! ;Zh8Llrh^S |
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| !!!!! Make Over $200 per day in Autopilot !!!!! ;Zh8Llrh^S [wiadomość #5238] |
pią, 28 grudzień 2007 12:51 |
Get Rich Today
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Insider Reveals Secret Traffic Arbitrage Tactics Making Over $9,547 a Day
Why Complain About Rising Adwords and Pay Per Click Costs When They Can Make
You Rich Instead? Discover the Astonishing traffic story That Has Been Kept
Secret Until Now...
http://www.mfawn.com/payloadrb.html
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| | Forum: kolobrzeg |
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| Wątek: me and my uncle fucking each other |
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| me and my uncle fucking each other [wiadomość #5237] |
sob, 01 marzec 2008 13:43 |
yenc
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PORNOLATION RELEASE
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| | Wątek: Sprzedam dom |
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| Sprzedam dom [wiadomość #5236] |
czw, 14 luty 2008 11:59 |
GRrRVG9
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| | Wątek: Use Your Computer To Make Money Online |
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| Use Your Computer To Make Money Online [wiadomość #5235] |
śro, 13 luty 2008 00:11 |
Samantha
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Thanks for looking.
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| | Wątek: BLOG ROKU GLOSUJ NAMNIE! |
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| BLOG ROKU GLOSUJ NAMNIE! [wiadomość #5234] |
sob, 02 luty 2008 19:14 |
Charles Smith
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HI
GLOSUJ NA MNIE W KONKURSIE NA BLOK ROKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WYSTARCZY WYSLAC SMS O TRESCI "I00072" na numer 71222 ZEBYM WYGRAL LAPTOPA
KOSZT TO 1.22zl WIEC CHYBA KAZDEGO STAC
MOJA KATEGORIA TO
http://www.blogroku.pl/kategoria_glosuj.html?catId=27
JESTEM NA 1 MIEJSCU BO KONKURENCJA TO EHEM SLABA W POROWNANIU DO MNIE
POMORZ MI JE UTRZYMAC, A ZOBACZYSZ WIECEJ MOICH ZWARIOWANYCH
WPISOW NA TWOIM ULUBIONYM BLOGU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thnx a lot for help,
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Wasz Michas M. aka Super Niania at Smith2874@spymac.com
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| | Wątek: Telenet nieuwsgroepen mededeling: nieuwsserver adres aanpassen/Attention: modification de l'adresse |
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| Telenet nieuwsgroepen mededeling: nieuwsserver adres aanpassen/Attention: modification de l'adresse [wiadomość #5233] |
wto, 29 styczeń 2008 20:55 |
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Beste klant,
Telenet heeft een migratie gedaan van haar nieuwsservers.
Wat betekent dit concreet voor jou als gebruiker?
Er verandert niets aan de service, maar om verder gebruik te maken van de
Telenet nieuwsgroepen service moet je bij de instellingen van je nieuwslezer
het adres van de nieuwsserver veranderen van news.telenet.be of
newsbin.telenet.be in newsgroups.telenet.be. Verder dien je de authenticatie
op deze nieuwsserver uit te schakelen.
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Het Telenet team
------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------
Cher client,
Telenet a effectue une migration de ses serveurs de newsgroup.
Pour continuer a utiliser les newsgroups de Telenet, modifiez dans la
configuration de lecteur de nouvelles l'adresse du serveur de newsgroup:
newsgroups.telenet.be a la place de news.telenet.be ou newsbin.telenet.be.
Ceci ne necessite pas que vous vous identifiez pour acceder a ce serveur de
newsgroup.
Cordialement,
L'equipe Telenet
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| | Wątek: my sister and a dog humping |
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| my sister and a dog humping [wiadomość #5232] |
śro, 09 styczeń 2008 16:34 |
yenc
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Brak treści wiadomości
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| | Wątek: !!!!! Make Over $200 per day in Autopilot !!!!! I!e O)ds2E |
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| !!!!! Make Over $200 per day in Autopilot !!!!! I!e O)ds2E [wiadomość #5231] |
pią, 28 grudzień 2007 12:51 |
Get Rich Today
Wiadomości: 5
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Insider Reveals Secret Traffic Arbitrage Tactics Making Over $9,547 a Day
Why Complain About Rising Adwords and Pay Per Click Costs When They Can Make
You Rich Instead? Discover the Astonishing traffic story That Has Been Kept
Secret Until Now...
http://www.mfawn.com/payloadrb.html
w1jY&DI^(d
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| | Forum: lotto |
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| Wątek: ShareLotto News: 3rd Edition - March 08 |
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| ShareLotto News: 3rd Edition - March 08 [wiadomość #5230] |
sob, 15 marzec 2008 21:46 |
ShareLotto
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ShareLotto News: 3rd Edition - March 08
NEW "DAILY COMBO SPECIAL" JACKPOT GAMES!
"Share the Expense - Share the Wealth"
First and foremost, let me once again thank our dedicated "Paid Members" who
have joined in on the dance floor to help make our party a success. What's a
party without any dancers? What's a lotto pool without any players? Enough
said!
The past few weeks have been a little tough - just like the winter months.
Our numbers at times were very close - and we keep on playing in hopes of
hitting the Jackpot. The couple down in Georgia who won the $270 Million
Dollar Jackpot certainly didn't quit - in fact his wife went back out in bad
weather to faithfully purchase her husbands tickets. Yes, it's luck also -
only $4 bucks and bingo.
As you know, we have dropped the regular playing of the NYS Lotto Extra
Jackpot games in exchange for more ticket chances at the Mega Millions
Jackpot which has been having much larger Jackpot amounts. The "Daily Combo
Special" still offers 55 tickets chances for ONLY $15 - $35 for Take 5; and
now $20 for Mega Millions, (with 10 ticket chances for both Tuesday and
Friday draws). When available and if enough members join in, we will still
offer a FREE Promotion on the NYS Lotto Extra as an added Bonus.
ShareLotto Membership Club is proud to announce that it has now WON 151 CASH
Prizes; just recently winning $18.50 in the Take 5 games - matching 3 out of
5 numbers for 3rd prize. In addition, the club has held 92 FREE Promotional
drawings. Look for a Special Drawing coming up in the future for dedicated
members.
For more information email us at: ShareLotto@yahoo.com.
"Share the Expense - Share the Wealth"
Good Luck!
Exciting Lottery News:
Winners From Queens, Brooklyn Share $8,000,000
Lotto Jackpot
Schenectady - Valentine's Day is for lovers.Lotto lovers in particular. Just
ask Pablo Mogollon of Forest Hills, Queens and Oleg Soloviev of the Bath
Beach/Graves End section of Brooklyn. The two
strangers-turned-Lottery-Millionaires met for the first time today at the
Tavern on the Green as Lottery officials presented each with his respective
share of an $8,000,000 Lotto jackpot from the drawing held on January 30,
2008.
"I love Lotto," said the 54-year-old Mogollon who works as a registered
nurse at Bellevue Hospital in midtown. "I started playing back in nursing
school for the fun of it and have been playing the same lucky numbers ever
since."
Mogollon spent a total of $5 on the January 30th Lotto drawing, choosing a
mix of randomly generated Quick Pick numbers and his own set of lucky
numbers that he also selected at random.
"There is no special meaning to the numbers I chose," he said. "They're just
my numbers - or so I thought," he added referring to his fellow jackpot
winner.
Mogollon will have plenty of time to think of ways to spend his new found
wealth during a month-long, pre-scheduled vacation to Peru where he plans to
reunite with family and friends. Upon his return to New York, the bachelor
millionaire said he plans to look for a new home and, in keeping with the
spirit of the day, hinted that he may be ready to settle down.
"It's not out of the question," he said.
Mogollon purchased his winning Lotto ticket on January 27, 2008 at BHP News
on 82nd Street in Jackson Heights. He claimed it on February 5, 2008.
Mogollon opted to receive his prize as a lump sum. The lump sum payment
totals $2,196,506, less required tax withholdings.
Mollogon's co-jackpot winner, Oleg Soloviev of Brooklyn purchased his lucky
Lotto ticket on January 29, 2008 at the CJ Express Deli & Grocery on Cropsey
Ave. in Brooklyn. Like Mollogon, Soloviev opted for a mix of Quick Pick
numbers and lucky numbers and, like his millionaire counterpart; Soloviev
admits that he picked his lucky numbers "out of thin air."
The Belarus-born electrical contractor said he owes his good fortune to his
constant companion, a Miniature Schnauzer named Bugsy.
"I was walking with Bugsy and decided to stop in to get a ticket," he said.
"I owe it all to him."
Soloviev said his plans for the money include making some much needed
repairs to his home and investing wisely for his daughters.
"I'm looking ahead to college and weddings for both of my daughters," he
said. When asked about plans for a wedding of his own in the near future
Soloviev would not commit to an answer.
"I just want to see the money," he said. "That's what interests me right
now."
Soloviev opted to receive his prize as a lump sum and will receive a
one-time payment of $2,196,506, less required tax withholdings.
Now in its 40th year in operation, the New York Lottery has generated more
than $31 billion to help support education in New York State, including a
record $2.3 billion in fiscal year 2006-2007 on incoming revenue of $7.18
billion. For more information, contact the New York Lottery Communications
office at 518-388-3415 or email here.
ShareLotto HighLights:
DISCOUNT SHARE PRICE:
Our low price per share for the DAILY COMBO SPECIAL is ONLY $15.00 for one
week drawing of 55 ticket chances in the Take5 and Mega Millions games. For
$15 MEMBERSHIP FEE you receive daily play in both games. This is better than
3 times your playing power which gives you better odds than if you played
alone. So help the club and yourself by purchasing shares to increase your
odds. Go to: http://www.paypal.com for purchase of shares or e-mail us at:
ShareLotto@yahoo.com for discount purchases.
MEMBERSHIP STATUS:
Remember, when an Eligible Yahoo Groups member makes a purchase of shares,
he or she becomes a ShareLotto Club "Paid Member". As a "Paid Member" you
will be selected for different discounts and Free Promotions throughout the
year. A "Paid Member" will also be known as a "Active Member" for a period
of thirty days after last drawing or expiration date. Any "Active Member"
will be paid 1% of the #10 Share (ShareLotto Share) if the Jackpot is won
and they did not play. For example; if $10 Million is won and divided by ten
that equals $1,000,000 and an "Active Member" would receive approximately
$100,000 (taxes not included).
New members click below:
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/ShareLotto
LUCKY NUMBER PICKS:
Look for our upcoming Lucky "Hot" and "Cold" numbers drawn over the past
year. With your order you may submit your personal numbers to be played and
shared in each group. If you don't have any special numbers, you can still
receive a "Quick Pick" random drawing.
CLUB RECORD:
To date, the ShareLotto YahooGroup has 128 members and we have WON 151
times, and conducted 92 FREE Promotional drawings. Again, working together
will bring us to our goal a lot quicker in winning the Lotto Jackpot.
However, we still need your help in purchasing shares and becoming a "PAID
MEMBER". The more we play the better our chances.
FREE LOTTO DRAWING:
NEW MEMBER SPECIAL: (limited time offer)
FREE DRAWING: TO BE ANNOUNCED (U.S. Residents ONLY)
NEW MEMBERS - We invite you to join our club and receive a Free NYS Lotto
Drawing to win the Jackpot. If the group wins a prize you also win. Just
sign up by clicking link: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/ShareLotto
However, there is no guarantee of participation and members are chosen at
random. Paid members are given first choice over non-paying members and
availability is based upon space in each group.
GOOD LUCK!
ShareLotto Membership Club
IMPORTANT NOTICE: NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. Void where prohibited.
Lottery drawings are available only to legal residents of the United States
and U.S.
territories (D.C., Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, and Guam). Must be 18 or
older
with valid E-mail address and Social Security number. U.S. Federal, State,
or
Local Tax restrictions may apply on all winnings. For complete rules and
regulations without signing up as a ShareLotto Club member, send a SASE to:
ShareLotto Membership Club Rules, P.O. Box 7183, Garden City, NY 11530.
Š2000-8, ShareLotto Membership Club a registered trademark of ShareLotto,
LLC.
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| my gf getting doggey [wiadomość #5229] |
sob, 01 marzec 2008 13:43 |
yenc
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PORNOLATION RELEASE
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| | Wątek: Kto policzy nowa loterie? |
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| Kto policzy nowa loterie? [wiadomość #5228] |
nie, 10 luty 2008 16:43 |
FriendOnet
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5/50 to ?
zeby dostam maxa dodatkowo ma by 2/8 to ile
i razem?
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| | Wątek: BLOG ROKU GLOSUJ NAMNIE! |
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| BLOG ROKU GLOSUJ NAMNIE! [wiadomość #5227] |
sob, 02 luty 2008 19:14 |
Austin Michael
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Howdy,
GLOSUJ NA MNIE W KONKURSIE NA BLOK ROKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WYSTARCZY WYSLAC SMS O TRESCI "I00072" na numer 71222 ZEBYM WYGRAL LAPTOPA
KOSZT TO 1.22zl WIEC CHYBA KAZDEGO STAC
MOJA KATEGORIA TO
http://www.blogroku.pl/kategoria_glosuj.html?catId=27
JESTEM NA 1 MIEJSCU BO KONKURENCJA TO EHEM SLABA W POROWNANIU DO MNIE
POMORZ MI JE UTRZYMAC, A ZOBACZYSZ WIECEJ MOICH ZWARIOWANYCH
WPISOW NA TWOIM ULUBIONYM BLOGU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you,
--
Wasz Michas M. aka Super Niania at Austin4093@yahoo.com
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| | Wątek: FREE DRAWING: Super Bowl Special |
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| FREE DRAWING: Super Bowl Special [wiadomość #5226] |
sob, 02 luty 2008 09:14 |
ShareLotto
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SPECIAL NOTIFICATION:
Attention ShareLotto Eligible Member,
"DAILY COMBO SPECIAL OFFER".
We are conducting a "Special Super Bowl Bonus" drawing of the NY Lotto Extra
Jackpot game for this Saturday. For a one time offer, any member purchasing
our "Daily Combo Special" for $15.00 will be automatically entered into this
FREE DRAWING of 10 ticket chances.
If you are a Patriots fan don't bother. GO GIANTS.
Order must be placed by 3:00pm Saturday. Our Daily Combo will start this
Sunday, Feb 3rd and end Saturday next week.
Purchase price is only $15. ($55 value + $10 Free Draw) You can easily place
your order thru PayPal and enter our email address:
ShareLotto@yahoo.com.
Please consider joining in this pool so you can increase your overall
chances of winning the Jackpot. This is what Sharing is about.
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/ShareLotto
"Share the Expense" and "Share the Wealth". You are not going to win or
share any dollar amount if you do not play.
GOOD LUCK!
ShareLotto Membership Club
IMPORTANT NOTICE: NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. Void where prohibited.
Lottery drawings are available only to legal residents of the United States
and U.S.
territories (D.C., Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, and Guam). Must be 18 or
older
with valid E-mail address and Social Security number. U.S. Federal, State,
or
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| M-I,5.Persecutio n - hara ssment at w ork [wiadomość #5222] |
śro, 02 styczeń 2008 06:22 |
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Once I stopped watching television and listening to. the radio at the end of
1990, "they" had to find other ways. of committing abuses. So they took what
must be for them a tried and tested. route; they get at you by subversion of
those around you. Since they wouldn't be able to do that with. my family or
friends, that meant. getting at people in the workplace to be their
mouthpieces and do their dirty work. for them.
They supplied my employers in Oxford with details from what was going on. in
my private life, and what I and other people had said at my home. and
accommodation. in Oxford. So people at work repeated verbatim words which
had been said in my home, and. repeated what I'd been doing recently. Often
the most trivial things, the. ones from your domestic life, are the ones
which hurt most. One manager in particular at Oxford continuously abused. me
for ten. months with verbal sexual abuse, swearing, and threats to terminate
my employment. After ten months I was forced. to seek psychiatric help and
start. taking medication, and was away from work for two months. I spoke
later with a solicitor about what. had happened at that company; he advised
it was only possible. to take action if you had left the company as a result
of harassment,. and such an action would have to be started very soon after
leaving.
Over a year. later the same manager picked on another new worker, with even
more serious results; that employee tried. to commit suicide with an
overdose as a result. of the ill-treatment, and was forced to leave his job.
But he didn't take action against the company, either. Abuse at work. is
comparable. to that elsewhere in that tangible evidence is difficult to
produce, and the abusers. will always have their denials ready when
challenged. And even if a court accepts what you say happened,. it still
remains to. prove that abuse causes the type of breakdown I had at the end
of 1992. In a recent. case before a British court, a former member of the
Army brought. a case against others who had maltreated him ten years
previously. Although. the court accepted that abuse had occurred, it did not
agree. that depressive illness necessarily followed, and denied justice to
the. plaintiff.
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-=. why the security services? -=
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You may ask, why do I. think the "they" referred to are the security
services? Is there any evidence that there. is a single source, as opposed
to a loosely based. "whispering campaign" amongst many people? Even if there
is a single source, is there any. evidence that "they" are professional
"buggers" as opposed to amateurs, or. perhaps people working for a privately
funded. organization?
a) As to the question of a single source versus something more. fragmented;
it is quite. obvious that there is a single source from the way the campaign
has been carried out. Since things have been. repeated verbatim which were
said. in my home, there must be one group which does the watching and
listening.. Since on several occasions (mainly during travel) people have
been planted in close proximity and rehearsed. in what they were to say, it
follows that. someone must have done the planning for that, and again a
single source. is indicated.
b) So why couldn't it be amateurs? Why. couldn't it be a private
organisation, for example a private detective agency paid to. manage the
campaign and undertake the technical aspects? Some detective agencies. are
unscrupulous as has been proved on the occasions in the past. when they've
been exposed or caught; they too can have access to the bugging. technology
deployed; and there are reported. cases of MI5 paying private eyes to do
their dirty. work (against peace campaigners and similar enemies of the
state) on the understanding that if they were caught then they. could deny
all. knowledge. Why couldn't that be the case?
The main factor pointing to. direct security service involvement (as opposed
to amateurs or MI5 proxies) is the breadth of their access to the media. in
particular, and the fact that the television companies. are so involved in
the campaign. The BBC would not directly invade someone's home. themselves,
since it would not be. within their remit to allocate personnel or financial
resources to do so. An organisation. of their stature would not take part in
a campaign set up by private sources.. The only people they would take
material from. would be the security services, presumably on the assumption
that. if the cat ever flew out of the bag yowling it would be MI5 who would
take the. consequences.
State sponsorship for these. acts of psychological terrorism is also
indicated by duration; support for over six years for a team of. three or
four. people would be beyond the means and will of most private sources.
The viciousness of the slanders and. personal denigration also points to
MI5; they traditionally "protect" the British state from politicians. of the
wrong hue by character. assassination, and in this case are using their
tried and tested methods to. murder with words an enemy they have invented
for. themselves.
And there are precedents. Diana and Hewitt. were alleged to have been filmed
"at it" by an Army intelligence team which had operated. in Northern
Ireland, these allegations. were made by someone called Jones who had been
on. the team. His statements were denied by the defence establishment who
tried to character-assassinate by describing him. as the "Jones twins".
Funny how if you. tell the truth, then you must be ill, isn't it? Thought
only. communists behaved like that?
Hewitt later said. that he'd been spoken to by someone in the army who
revealed the existence. of videotapes of him and Diana, and that the tapes
would be published if any attempt was made by them to resume. their
association.
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They. deliberately set out to harass in a way that would resemble the
symptoms. of schizophrenia, so that any report of the harassment would be
taken as. indicating mental illness and "treated" accordingly. They never
show their own faces; they only work through. proxies, in the media, among
the public, and by manipulating people in the workplace.. Since they do not
declare their identity there is no evidence to initiate legal. action
against the security services or. anyone else. The only people you can
prosecute. are the proxies and they will deny knowledge of any conspiracy.
By repeatedly humiliating. and abusing the victim, they induced mental
illness. This is. the worst form of human rights violation: making any
statement of the. harassment appear to be symptomatic of the illness which
they cause through the harassment. That this can. happen, and people collude
by. silence, is absolutely horrifying.
From the beginning in June 1990 they set a pattern. of harassment which they
have. followed without change for the last six years. They paint me as a
"threat" to which people must "react" (shades of. Nazi persecution methods),
while simultaneously portraying their hate campaign on which they. have
spent over a million pounds of taxpayers money. as a "joke".
The MI5 that breaks the law with. the silent complicity of the police is the
same agency that is now seeking a role in the fight. against crime. Perhaps
the. real joke is the proposed involvement in the implementation of justice
of an organisation which commits criminal acts with secrecy and. disinterest
for the legal. process.
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My first reaction in 1990/91 was to assume. that if I broke contact then
they would not be able to follow and would lose interest. So I. did the
things that have been. suggested by other people; I sold my television,
stopped listening to the radio and tried. to withdraw away from the sources
of abuse as much as possible. I reasoned. that they must have more important
things to deal with and that normal people would. simply leave me alone if
it. were made difficult for them to continue their harassment.
I reckoned without the. sheer vindictiveness of the abusers. They did not
let up but instead "got to" people around me, mainly people at. work, to do
their dirty work for them. I went to see my GP,. who refused to believe what
he was being told, and. refused to direct me on to anyone who could be of
practical assistance. It. was not until three years had passed that the GP
admitted the matter was outside his competence. and suggested going to the
police.
In the summer of 1994 we called in counter-surveillance experts from. a
private detective. agency to sweep our house and telephone for bugging
devices. They conducted a. thorough search and found nothing; but as noted
above, since the existence. of surveillance was being forced in my face by
the harassers, you would expect them to have taken. the possibility of a
counter-surveillance sweep into account when planning. the type of devices
to. be employed.
In Easter 1995 I made a complaint to my local Police station. in London, but
the police have not expressed any intention to. do anything about the
continuing harassment ("we're. not saying it's happening and we're not
saying it isn't happening" were the words. used). I think the officer I
spoke to at Easter wasn't aware of it. happening, although other members of
the. police force obviously do know.
From April 1995 until the present time the matter has. been discussed in a
lot. of detail on the Usenet (Internet) "uk.misc" newsgroup. That discussion
has given birth to. the article which you are now reading. My hopes in
posting. to Usenet were that wider publicizing would discourage the security
services from continuing their harassment,. and "draw people out" into
concurring with the truth of what was. being said. Neither of those have
followed, but the discussion. has served a purpose in allowing this
structured. report to be created.
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The. postings to uk.misc newsgroup generated a very defensive reaction from
Usenet readers in the UK. So. much so, that they tried strenuously to
suppress what was being said, both by. breaking the rules of netiquette in
their responses on the forum, and directly by. action to revoke the account
from which the. postings were issued.
Yet the postings were within the normal boundaries. of behaviour for
uk.misc, and other less partisan spectators did not see justice in. the
censorship which was effected,. as the following excerpt shows;
:Karen. Lofstrom (lofstrom@lava.net) wrote
:>It does. seem that the frequency and the size of his posts are
:>approaching net. abuse. However, IMHO, they aren't quite there yet. If
:>his postmaster were. to act in this instance, it would raise troubling
:>censorship. issues.
The inescapable conclusion. of the censorship effected on the uk.*
newsgroups is that the British are intent on their. wrongdoing remaining
concealed, and. therefore seek to subvert and suppress freedom of speech,
not only in their own country where the media. shows xenophobic bias and
bile against all perceived enemies within and without, but. also in other
countries which have. their own statutes to guarantee the basic human right
of free. speech.
It is absolutely necessary to. bring their hate campaign out into the open
where it can be placed under scrutiny and the harassers seen. for what they
are. That is the only way of making. it impossible for the security services
to carry it out. There is a wider dimension, though.. Xenophobia as
demonstrated by British people and. institutions over the last few years
belongs to the same stable as racial hatred. In one case, two youths on. a
Tube train made that racism explicit by referring to their victim. as a
"soft toy, not up to British. Standards". Doubtless others victimize partly
on the basis. of race (isnt it odd that they chose to torment someone who
is not. ethnically English?) while expressing their abuse in terms of
another genetic attribute, namely mental illness.. All xenophobia on a
genetic basis is wrong, but while racial insults are illegal,. abusing the
mentally ill is neither against the law nor. subject to similar condemnation
when it is. exposed.
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Strangers in. the street have recognized me on sight many times, and shown
awareness of the current thread of abuse. To give. you one example, in 1992
I was seriously ill,. and a manager at work somewhat humorously said that
"it wasn't. fair" that people were bullying me. A few days later, I attended
for the first time a clinic in London as an outpatient,. and on my way out
was accosted by someone who asked. if "they had paid my fare", with emphasis
on the word "fare".. He repeated the word several times in this different
context; that they should. have paid my "fare", each time emphasizing the
word.
For two and a half years. from the time their harassment started until
November 1992 I refused to see a psychiatrist, because I reasoned. that I
was not ill of my own. action or fault, but through the stress caused by
harassment, and that a lessening. of the illness would have to be consequent
to a removal of its immediate. cause, in other words a cessation of
harassment. I also reasoned that since. they were taunting me with jokes
about mental illness, if I were to seek. treatment then the abusers would
think that they had "won" and been. proved "right". Remember, the constant
theme of any persecution is, "we must destroy you. because you're X",
whether. X is a racial or other attribute. In this case the X was "we
persecute you because. you have brain disease". The similarity of this logic
to. Nazi attitudes to the mentally ill is striking.
The same. manager who'd said "it wasn't fair" asked me in winter 1992 why I
didn't seek help from a psychiatrist; was. it, he asked, because "they would
think they had won" if I sought treatment?. That was something I'd never
said at work... again,. taken separately it proves nothing, but many such
things over a period of months. proves conclusively that people in the
company knew what was going on, and. in quite a lot of detail.
Usually harassment in public lacks the level. of finesse of "paying your
fare". Most people's imagination does. not go beyond moronic parroting of
the current. term of denigration. That is not surprising given the average
level of the abusers; if they do. not have the intelligence to distinguish
wrong from right then neither will they have the capacity. for anything
other than mindless repetition of. a monosyllabic term calculated to fit
into their. minds.
The first incidents of verbal assault in. public were in again in the summer
of 1990, although they increased in frequency and. venom with time. In July
1990. the first public incident occurred on a tube train on the Northern
line. Two. men and their girlfriends recognised me; the women sprang to my
defence, saying "He. looks perfectly normal, he doesn't look ill". Their
boyfriends of course knew better, and followed the party line; one of. them
made reference to an "operation",. apparently to work at the tube station
but implicitly to a visit that. I had made to hospital a couple of weeks
previously.
In August 1990 going home from. college, soon after getting on a tube train
at Gloucester Road I was followed by a group of. four youths, who started a
chant. of abuse. That they were targeting me was confirmed by other people
in the carriage, one of whom asked the other "who are they going on. at, is
it the bloke who just got on?" to which. the second replied "yes, I think
so". I. was tempted to reply, but as in every other instance the abusers are
enabled in their cowardice by physically outnumbering. the abused; any
confrontation would result in my. being beaten up, followed by a complaint
to the police that "he attacked us", and of. course he's ill, so he must
have been imagining that. we were getting at him. Shitty, aren't they?
But the shittiness of the four youths on the tube. train is as nothing
compared to the episode on the. National Express coach to Dover in the
summer. of 1992. While going on holiday to the Continent I was verbally set
upon by a couple. travelling sitting a few rows behind. The boy did the
talking, his female. companion contributing only a continuous empty giggling
noise. He. spoke loudly to ensure other people on the coach heard, always
about "they" and "this bloke" but never naming either the abusers. or the
person he was talking. about. He said "they" had "found somebody from his
school,. and he was always really stressed at school". They must have dug
deep to. find enemies there; perhaps someone who dropped out of school,
someone who didn't. do too well later, who was jealous and keen to get their
own back? The boy also said "he was in. a bed and breakfast for only one
night and they got him". By a not unexpected coincidence I had been. in a
B&B in Oxford a week previously,. which had been booked from work; other
things lead me to the conclusion that the company's offices were. bugged for
most of the 2 1/2 years that I was there, so "they". would have known a room
in the B&B had been booked. (But I'll. bet "they" didn't tell the company's
managers their. offices were bugged, did they?).
After a few minutes of this I went back to where. they were sitting and
asked where they were. travelling. The boy named a village in France, and
the girl's giggling suddenly ceased;. presumably it permeated to her brain
cell what the purpose of the. boy's abuse was.
This and other set-up situations are obviously calculated to. provoke a
direct confrontation which would. bring in the police, with the abusers
claiming that they. were the ones attacked. Again in 1992, outside the
house where I was living in. Oxford I was physically attacked by someone -
not punched, just grabbed by. the coat, with some verbals thrown in for good
measure. That was something the people at work shouldn't have. known
about... but soon after a couple of people were. talking right in front of
me about, "I heard he was. attacked". The UK police have a responsibility
for preventing assault occurring, but they do not seem to take. any interest
in meeting that responsibility.. I suppose their attitude is that harassment
does not come. within their remit unless it involves physical assault, and
they will only become involved once. that happens. That is of course quite
the wrong attitude for them to take,. but as I now understand, the police
investigate only the crime they wish to investigate; if they do not. take
your complaints seriously then there. is nothing you can do to make them
take. action.
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The British. police obviously do know what is taking place. Besides my
interpretations of what individual officers. have said which forces that
conclusion, it would be inconceivable. for them to be unaware of something
on. this scale.
If they know, then they will know that the abusers have broken laws in. the
UK and abroad. Recently the. UK introduced laws against electronic spying
which carry a penalty. of several years jail if caught. If the police know
illegal harassment is taking place,. and do nothing about it, then they are
failing in. their responsibilities.
Last Easter (1995) I went into. the local police station in London and spoke
to an officer about the harassment against me.. But I couldn't provide
tangible evidence; what. people said, in many cases years ago, is beyond
proof, and without something to support my statements I. cannot expect a
police. officer to take the complaint seriously.
The current situation with regard to the police. is not one which allows a
breakthrough in dealing with the problem. On the one. hand, most individual
officers at a local police station. may not know about the ongoing assaults,
so a complaint at that level will not yield results. Yet the police. as an
organisation do know of. the harassment, and they must be aware that a
complaint has been made at. a police station. So it is clearly their duty to
take preventative. action against the continuing molestation, but because
the criminals are operating on behalf of a state agency,. the police are not
carrying. out their duty.
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wto, 01 styczeń 2008 08:21 |
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The article of which part is reproduced below was. penned by Bernard Levin
for the Features section of the Times on 21 September 1991. To. my mind, it
described the situation at the time and. in particular a recent meeting with
a friend, during which. I for the first time admitted to someone other than
my GP that I had been. subjected to a conspiracy of harassment over the
previous year. and a half.
>There is a madman running loose about. London, called David Campbell; I have
>no reason to believe. that he is violent, but he should certainly be
>approached. with caution. You may know him by the curious glitter in his
>eyes. and a persistent trembling of his hands; if that does not suffice, you
>will find him attempting to thrust no. fewer than 48 books into your arms,
>all hardbacks, with a promise that, if you. should return to the same
>meeting-place next year, he will. heave another 80 at you.
>
>If, by now, the police have arrived and are keeping. a close watch on him,
>you may. feel sufficiently emboldened to examine the books. The jackets are
>a model of uncluttered typography, elegantly and. simply laid out; there is
>an unobtrusive colophon. of a rising sun, probably not picked at random.
>Gaining confidence - the lunatic is. smiling by now, and the policemen, who
>know. about such things, have significantly removed their helmets - you
>could do worse than take the jacket off. the first book in the pile. The
>only. word possible to describe the binding is sumptuous; real cloth in a
>glorious shade of dark green, with the title and author. in black and gold
>on. the spine.
>
>Look at it more closely; your eyes do not deceive you - it truly. does have
>real top-bands. and tail-bands, in yellow, and, for good measure, a silk
>marker ribbon in a lighter green. The paper is cream-wove. and acid-free,
>and the book. is sewn, not glued.
>
>Throughout the encounter, I. should have mentioned, our loony has been
>chattering away, although what he. is trying to say is almost impossible to
>understand; after a time,. however, he becomes sufficiently coherent to make
>clear. that he is trying to sell the books to you. Well, now, such quality
>in bookmaking today can. only be for collectors' limited editions at a
>fearsome price -. #30, #40, #50?
>
>No, no, he says, the glitter more powerful than. ever and the trembling of
>his hands rapidly. spreading throughout his entire body; no, no - the books
>are priced variously at. #7, #8 or #9, with the top price #12.
>
>At this,. the policemen understandably put their helmets back on; one of
>them draws his truncheon and the other can. be heard summoning
>reinforcements on his walkie-talkie. The. madman bursts into tears, and
>swears it is all. true.
>
>And. it is.
>
>David. Campbell has acquired the entire rights to the whole of the
>Everyman's Library, which died a lingering. and shameful death a decade or
>so ago, and he proposes to start it all over again -. 48 volumes this
>September and 80 more next. year, in editions I have described, at the
>prices specified.. He proposes to launch his amazing venture simultaneously
>in Britain and the United States, with. the massive firepower of Random
>Century at his back in this country, and the dashing cavalry of. Knopf
>across the water, and no one who loves literature. and courage will forbear
>to. cheer.
At the time this article was written I had believed for. some time that
columnists in the Times. and other journalists had been making references to
my situation. Nothing unusual about this. you may think, plenty of people
have the same sort of ideas and obviously the papers. aren't writing about
them, so why should my beliefs. not be as false as those of others?
What makes this article. so extraordinary is that three or four days
immediately. preceding its publication, I had a meeting with a friend,
during the course of which we discussed the. media persecution, and in
particular that by Times. columnists. It seemed to me, reading the article
by Levin in Saturdays paper, that he was. describing in some detail his
"artists impression" of. that meeting. Most telling are the final
sentences, when. he writes, "The madman bursts into tears, and swears it is
all true. And it is." Although I did. not "burst into tears" (he seems to be
using a bit of poetic licence and exaggerating) I did try. hard to convince
my friend that it was all true; and I am able to concur. with Mr Levin,
because, of. course, it is.
At. the beginning of the piece Levin reveals a fear of being attacked by the
"irrational" subject of his. story, saying "I have no reason to believe that
he is violent, but he should certainly. be approached with caution". This
goes back to the xenophobic propaganda. of "defence" against a "threat"
which was seen at the very beginning of the harassment. The. impression of a
"madman running loose" who needs to. be controlled through an agency which
assigns to itself the mantle of the "police" is also one which had. been
expressed. elsewhere.
In the. final paragraph of this extract, his reference to Everymans Library
as having "died a lingering and shameful death. a decade or so ago" shows
clearly what sort of conclusion. they wish to their campaign. They want a
permanent solution, and as they are. prevented from achieving that solution
directly, they waste significant resources on methods. which have been
repeatedly shown to be ineffective for such a. purpose.
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wto, 01 styczeń 2008 07:40 |
vivif
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The article of which part is reproduced below was penned by Bernard. Levin
for the Features section of the Times on 21. September 1991. To my mind, it
described the situation at the time. and in particular a recent meeting with
a friend, during. which I for the first time admitted to someone other than
my GP that I. had been subjected to a conspiracy of harassment over the
previous. year and a half.
>There is. a madman running loose about London, called David Campbell; I have
>no reason to. believe that he is violent, but he should certainly be
>approached with caution. You. may know him by the curious glitter in his
>eyes and a persistent trembling of his hands; if. that does not suffice, you
>will find him attempting to thrust no fewer than 48. books into your arms,
>all hardbacks, with. a promise that, if you should return to the same
>meeting-place next. year, he will heave another 80 at you.
>
>If, by now, the police have arrived and are. keeping a close watch on him,
>you. may feel sufficiently emboldened to examine the books. The jackets are
>a model of uncluttered typography, elegantly and simply. laid out; there is
>an. unobtrusive colophon of a rising sun, probably not picked at random.
>Gaining confidence - the lunatic is smiling by now,. and the policemen, who
>know about such things, have significantly removed their helmets -. you
>could. do worse than take the jacket off the first book in the pile. The
>only word possible to. describe the binding is sumptuous; real cloth in a
>glorious. shade of dark green, with the title and author in black and gold
>on the. spine.
>
>Look at it more closely; your eyes do not deceive. you - it truly does have
>real top-bands and tail-bands, in yellow, and,. for good measure, a silk
>marker ribbon in a lighter green. The paper is cream-wove and. acid-free,
>and the book is. sewn, not glued.
>
>Throughout the encounter, I should. have mentioned, our loony has been
>chattering away, although what. he is trying to say is almost impossible to
>understand; after a. time, however, he becomes sufficiently coherent to make
>clear that he is trying to sell the books to you. Well,. now, such quality
>in bookmaking. today can only be for collectors' limited editions at a
>fearsome price -. #30, #40, #50?
>
>No, no, he says, the glitter. more powerful than ever and the trembling of
>his hands rapidly spreading throughout his. entire body; no, no - the books
>are priced variously at #7, #8 or. #9, with the top price #12.
>
>At this, the policemen understandably. put their helmets back on; one of
>them draws his truncheon and. the other can be heard summoning
>reinforcements. on his walkie-talkie. The madman bursts into tears, and
>swears it is. all true.
>
>And it. is.
>
>David Campbell has acquired. the entire rights to the whole of the
>Everyman's Library,. which died a lingering and shameful death a decade or
>so ago, and he proposes to start. it all over again - 48 volumes this
>September and 80 more next year, in editions I have described, at. the
>prices specified. He proposes. to launch his amazing venture simultaneously
>in Britain and the. United States, with the massive firepower of Random
>Century at his back in this country, and the dashing cavalry. of Knopf
>across the water, and no one who loves literature and courage will. forbear
>to. cheer.
At. the time this article was written I had believed for some time that
columnists. in the Times and other journalists had been making references to
my situation. Nothing unusual about this you may. think, plenty of people
have the same sort of. ideas and obviously the papers aren't writing about
them, so why should. my beliefs not be as false as those of others?
What makes. this article so extraordinary is that three or four days
immediately preceding its publication, I had. a meeting with a friend,
during the course of which we discussed the media persecution,. and in
particular that by Times columnists.. It seemed to me, reading the article
by Levin in Saturdays paper, that he was describing in some. detail his
"artists impression" of that meeting. Most telling are. the final
sentences, when he writes, "The. madman bursts into tears, and swears it is
all true. And it is." Although I did not "burst into tears" (he. seems to be
using a bit. of poetic licence and exaggerating) I did try hard to convince
my friend that it. was all true; and I am able to concur with Mr Levin,
because,. of course, it is.
At the beginning of the piece Levin reveals. a fear of being attacked by the
"irrational" subject of. his story, saying "I have no reason to believe that
he is violent, but he should certainly. be approached with caution". This
goes back to the xenophobic. propaganda of "defence" against a "threat"
which was. seen at the very beginning of the harassment. The impression of a
"madman running loose" who needs to be controlled through an agency. which
assigns to itself the mantle of the "police" is also. one which had been
expressed. elsewhere.
In the final paragraph of. this extract, his reference to Everymans Library
as having "died a lingering. and shameful death a decade or so ago" shows
clearly what sort of conclusion they wish to their campaign. They want. a
permanent solution, and. as they are prevented from achieving that solution
directly, they waste significant resources on methods. which have been
repeatedly shown to be ineffective for such. a purpose.
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wto, 01 styczeń 2008 07:02 |
fefmei
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-= who knows about. it? =-
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Many people know, both in the establishment and media,. and among the
general public. Despite an absence of its target from the UK for. more than
two years, the echoes. of paranoia can still be heard loud and clear from
across the water. When it started in 1990, the only people who knew. were
those in. BBC television who were spying on my home, and a few radio
broadcasters. There were a. few cases of public harassment, but very little
compared to the situation that developed a couple. of years later.
The list today includes BBC TV. staff (newsreaders such as Martyn Lewis,
Michael Buerk, Nicholas Witchell),. people from radio stations such as
Chris Tarrant of Capital and Radio 1 DJs, people in the print. media, but
also many people in. the general public. All united in a conspiracy which
breaks the laws which the UK does have regarding harassment, and. all
completely uncaring for any semblance of decency. or elementary respect
for. individual rights.
The British police (obviously) do know the nature. of the harassment and in
all. probability the identity of those behind it. Some time ago I made a
complaint to my local police station. in London, without positive result.
The UK police. are failing in their duty to see the law enforced in not
checking the. abuse.
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wto, 01 styczeń 2008 05:04 |
imvmvm
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-= MI5: cost. of the operation -=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Here's what a couple of other people on. Usenet (uk.misc) had to say
regarding the cost of. running such an operation...
PO: >Have some sense, grow. up and smell reality. What you are talking about
PO: >would take loads of. planning, tens of thousands of pounds and lots of
PO:. >people involved in the planning, execution and maintenance of it. You
PO: >must have a very high opinion of yourself to think. you are worth it.
PM: >But why? And why you? Do you realize how much it. would cost to keep
PM:. >one person under continuous surveillance for five years? Think about
PM: >all the man/hours. Say they _just_ allocated. a two man team and a
PM: >supervisor. OK., Supervisor's salary,. say, #30,000 a year. Two men,
PM: >#20,000 a year each.. But they'd need to work in shifts -- so it would
PM: >be six men at. #20,000 (which with on-costs would work out at more like
PM: >#30,000 to. the employer.)
PM:. >
PM: >So, we're talking #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say,. #40,000 for the
PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then you've. got the hardware involved. And
PM: >any transcription that needs doing. You don't think the. 'Big Boss'
PM: >would listen to hours and hours of tapes,. do you.
PM:. >
PM: >So, all in all, you couldn't actually do. the job for much less than
PM: >a quarter million a year. Over five years. What are you doing that. makes
PM: >it worth the while of the state to spend over. one and a quarter million
PM: >on. you?
Those are pretty much the sort of calculations that went through. my head
once I stopped to consider what it must be costing them to. run this
operation.. The partial answer is, there have been periods when the
intensity has been greater, and. times when little has happened. In fact,
for much of 1993 and the first. half of 1994, very little happened. Although
I don't think that was for reasons of money - if they can tap into. the
taxpayer they're not going to be short of resources,. are they?
The more complete answer is in the enormity of what. they're doing. Relative
to the cost to British pride of seeing their country humiliated. for the
persecution of their own citizens, isn't is worth the cost of four or. five
people to try to bring things to a close in the manner they would. wish? To
the. government a million or two is quite honestly nothing - if they can
convince themselves of the necessity of what they're doing,. resources will
not be the limiting. factor.
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wto, 01 styczeń 2008 04:37 |
vfimevf
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-= Capital. Radio - Chris Tarrant -=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=
Capital Radio DJs have been "in on it" from the start.. One of the first
things I heard in the summer of 1990 was from a Capital DJ who said,. "If
he listens to Capital then he can't be all bad". (supportive, you see. We're
not bastards). Much of what came over the radio in 1990 is now so. far away
the precise. details have been obliterated by time. No diary was kept of the
details, and although archives if they exist may give pointers,. the
ambiguity of what broadcasters said would. leave that open to
re-interpretation.
In spring 1994, Chris Tarrant on his Capital morning show. made an aside to
someone else in. the studio, about a person he didn't identify. He said,
"You know. this bloke? He says we're trying to kill him. We should be done
for. attempted manslaughter".
That mirrored something I had said a. day or two before. What Tarrant said
was understood by the staff. member in the studio he was saying it to; they
said, "Oh no, don't say that" to Tarrant.. If any archives exist of the
morning. show (probably unlikely) then it could be found there; what he said
was so out of context that he would. be very hard put to find an explanation.
A couple of days later, someone at the site where I was working. repeated the
remark although in a different way; they said there had been people. in a
computer room when. automatic fire extinguishers went off and those people
were "thinking. of suing for attempted manslaughter".
Finally,. this isn't confined to the established radio stations. In 1990
after I had listened to a pirate radio station in South. London for about
half an hour, there was. an audible phone call in the background, followed
by total silence. for a few moments, then shrieks of laughter. "So what are
we supposed to say now? Deadly torture? He's going. to talk to us now, isn't
he?", which meant that they. could hear what I would say in my room.
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